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Summary: In this conversation, Jan shares his extensive background in water sports and engineering, detailing his journey from developing wave energy devices to becoming a foil designer. He discusses the intricacies of foil design, the importance of testing and feedback, and how nature inspires engineering solutions. Jan emphasizes the balance between ease of use and performance in foil design, and he reflects on his contributions to innovative designs in the industry. In this conversation, Jan discusses innovative design approaches in foil technology, his role as a freelance engineer, and the dynamics of teamwork at Ensis. He shares insights on balancing work and family life, his experiences with various water sports, and the challenges of pump foiling at Lake Constance. Jan also touches on future developments in the industry and the complexities of the product development cycle.