This episode brings together the five core elements of whole family healing from Eagle Ranch—Your Story, Family Dynamics, Nurture & Structure, Child's Unique Gifts, and Community—and frames them through the lens of the Gospel.

Hosts Andy and Kelly welcome Davon Stack, a seasoned ministry leader from Perimeter Church, to discuss what "Gospel Parenting" truly means. Davon breaks down the powerful, simple truth of the Gospel ("We had it all. We lost it all. He did it all. We get it all.") and shares how relying on that truth can transform a parent's sense of helplessness into hope and reliance. He also shares a deeply personal story of how caring for his mother-in-law in her final days provided a profound, practical opportunity to teach his children love and forgiveness in a real-life crisis.

Episode Highlights

• [01:55] Davon shares his family of origin, marked by extreme hospitality and a rich family legacy of service.
• [08:45] The clear and concise definition of the Gospel and why recognizing "we lost it all" leads to true gratitude and reliance.
• [11:50] How the Gospel fundamentally shifts parenting from relying on personal strength to relying on the power of the Holy Spirit.
• [14:20] A tangible example of Gospel Parenting: Davon's family navigates the challenge of caring for his mother-in-law through early-onset Alzheimer's and how it taught their children kindness and forgiveness.
• [21:20] The difference between surface-level "Christian Parenting" (checking boxes) and Gospel Parenting (relying on a redeemed identity).
• [25:55] Davon shares words of hope for listeners who are struggling, pointing them to the power and promises already given to us through Christ.
• [28:15] Why it's vital to rely on the community of God's people and seek out those who are honestly relying on a greater power.

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Resources Mentioned

• Scripture References: 2 Peter 1:3-4, Acts 2:42-47
• Church: Perimeter Church

Every child is an image bearer of a creative God, and discovering their unique gifts is one of the most rewarding parts of parenting. In this episode, hosts Andy and Kelly talk with Wade Pearce, Senior Director of Program at Eagle Ranch, about how to stop trying to control your kids' future and start becoming their greatest talent agent.

Wade, an adoptive and foster parent who has welcomed over 40 children into his home, shares hard-won lessons on recognizing a child's passions, the danger of parental anxiety, and why your only vision for your child should be a healthy relationship. He breaks down the Circle of Courage philosophy and explains why embracing your child's interests—no matter how intense or fleeting—is the key to fostering mastery and a sense of self-worth.

Episode Highlights

• [01:36] Wade shares his upbringing, his journey as an educator, and his experience as an adoptive and foster parent of over 40 children.
• [03:45] Wade explains the concept of the "baby hero" role and his personal experience with striving to please his parents.
• [10:10] The key to stewarding a child's life: becoming a detective or a talent agent to discover what makes them tick.
• [14:15] Wade introduces the Circle of Courage and the four things every child needs to thrive: belonging, mastery, independence, and generosity.
• [17:58] Why getting out of the mode of living vicariously through your children is crucial for their long-term success.
• [19:00] Examples of following and supporting a child's mastery, from fishing to buying and selling shoes.
• [25:50] How parental anxiety is the enemy and why becoming a non-anxious presence is the key to breaking cycles of control.

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Resources Mentioned

• Concept: Circle of Courage (from Reclaiming Youth International)
• Author: Dallas Willard

Do you really know what motivates your child, or are you projecting your own expectations onto them? In this insightful episode, hosts Andy and Kelly talk with Dr. Fred Haselden (Director of Education) and Jennifer Smith (Day School Program Counselor) about the critical difference between the gifts you want your child to have and the unique gifts God has actually given them.

They share core concepts from psychology, including how your child's nervous system is always choosing between connection and protection, and how to identify their personal triggers and currency. Dr. H candidly shares his "dentist retirement plan" story—a perfect, albeit intense, example of how parental expectations can overshadow a child's true interests.

Episode Highlights

• [05:12] Dr. H and Jennifer introduce themselves and share their personal family stories.
• [06:00] Dr. H shares his personal and humorous story of "brainwashing" his daughter into thinking she wanted to be a dentist and the powerful lesson he learned about controlling expectations.
• [11:30] Why many parents struggle with having preconceived notions and expectations for their kids.
• [12:30] Jennifer explains the difference between a child's nervous system being in protection mode versus connection mode.
• [16:00] Dr. H and Jennifer define and give examples of a child's trigger and their currency (what motivates them).
• [19:30] How to implement structured "rhythms of connection"—like a no-screens family dinner or the "Rosebud, Thorn" exercise—to build security.
• [25:50] A discussion of why building strong community is essential, especially for adoptive parents, when facing the challenge of a child's active rejection.
• [28:40] The wisdom of sowing good seeds and praying for the harvest, focusing on your efforts, not the outcome.

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• Book: Kids with Big Baffling Behaviors by Robyn Gobbel

Community is a lifeline, especially when parenting gets hard. In this episode, co-host Andy Nelson gets vulnerable and shares his personal story of moving from a strong, stable community to a new city where he and his wife, Emily, felt isolated and alone.

Andy shares how this experience of being without a "safety net" forced them to intentionally build a new community and how this journey shaped their family's values. He also tells the powerful story of a season of hardship when their community stepped in to help, and how this act of being cared for redefined his understanding of what it means to both give and receive help.

Episode Highlights

• [01:30] Andy shares his background, growing up in a close-knit, loving community and family.
• [04:00] Andy's story of moving 600 miles away from home and the shock of finding himself without a community.
• [07:00] The pivotal moment when a small act of kindness helped transform their family's isolated season.
• [08:50] How Andy and Emily intentionally built a new community and how their different personalities contributed to that.
• [14:00] Why building a "deep" community is more important than having "thin" relationships.
• [21:10] The power of being a "helper" and how a season of needing help taught him to receive from others.
• [23:00] The profound impact of community on family health and well-being.

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Resources Mentioned

• Book: You Are What You Love by James K.A. Smith
• Non-profit: Promise 686

Gen Z is the most connected generation in history, but they're also experiencing an unprecedented epidemic of loneliness. In this episode, hosts Andy and Kelly talk with Dr. Stephanie Shackelford, a Senior Fellow at the Barna Group, about her research on teen mental health and the critical role that community plays in our well-being.

Dr. Shackelford shares why virtual connection often leads to thin, surface-level relationships and why in-person community is vital for a healthy family. You'll learn about the profound impact of church attendance on mental health, the value of intergenerational relationships, and practical ways to model and build real, meaningful connections for your children.

Episode Highlights

• [01:30] Dr. Shackelford shares her background and family life at Eagle Ranch, complete with a Great Pyrenees and 80 chickens.
• [02:45] A broad overview of her research on the Gen Z mental health crisis and the six main contributors.
• [04:20] Why the "most connected" generation is also the loneliest and the difference between thin and thick community.
• [07:00] The powerful role of the church in fostering mental well-being and a sense of purpose.
• [14:00] The importance of intergenerational relationships, and why every youth needs five key older adults in their life.
• [15:30] Practical ways for parents to help their kids practice community, from putting away screens to serving together.
• [21:00] The value of being transparent with your family and modeling the kind of community you want to build.

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Resources Mentioned

• Guest: Dr. Stephanie Shackelford - stephshackelford.com
• Research Report: The Barna Group https://www.barna.com/mental-health/

Some parents care for a few children; others care for 39. In this episode, hosts Andy and Kelly talk with John and Cassie Adams, a couple with a big heart for children, who have welcomed dozens of kids into their home through fostering and house-parenting.

John and Cassie share how their wildly different family upbringings and personality types have influenced their approach to parenting. They discuss their experience with a "strong-willed" child and how it pushed them to discover the true balance of nurture and structure. This episode is a powerful conversation about finding your own parenting balance, leaning into outside support, and why sometimes, taking a step back is the most loving thing you can do.

Episode Highlights

• [01:10] John and Cassie share their family of origin stories and introduce their family of three biological children, and the 39 they've cared for in 15 years of marriage.
• [04:20] The motivation behind their decision to step into foster care and how their purpose has evolved over time.
• [08:55] The Adams discuss discovering the balance of nurture and structure and how it's not a one-size-fits-all solution for every child.
• [13:00] Cassie shares a personal story of taking a step back from "grade monitoring" and how it created a healthier family dynamic.
• [16:50] John and Cassie explore the difference between training and controlling, and how sometimes you have to let go to let them learn.
• [20:00] Advice for single parents and why seeking outside community and counseling is so important.
• [24:00] The first steps to take if you're a parent who feels like what you're doing isn't working.

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It's one of the most practical and powerful tools in parenting: nurture and structure. But what does it actually look like in real life? In this episode, hosts Andy and Kelly are joined by John Cunnings, the Boys' Program Director at Eagle Ranch, who has over 20 years of experience applying this model in real homes.

John helps us understand the importance of balancing love and connection (nurture) with boundaries and rules (structure). He shares how the choice and consequence model is a fundamental tool for this, and he gives parents a step-by-step guide to implement it. Get ready for some deeply practical advice, including a "400 parenting average" analogy and the power of a simple apology.

Episode Highlights

• [03:00] John shares his background as a military kid and a single parent raising two girls.
• [05:00] Defining the essential balance of nurture and structure in parenting.
• [06:30] Introducing the choice and consequence model and its foundation in training, not control.
• [08:00] The difference between discipline and training, and how one leads to true growth.
• [12:30] How to set up a choice and consequence system in your own home in three practical steps.
• [16:00] An explanation of "porch time" and how it creates opportunities for connection and reflection.
• [26:00] The "400 parenting average" and why you only need to be right 40% of the time to have a positive impact.

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• Book: What Happened to You? by Bruce Perry

No family is a perfect mix. In fact, most are beautifully complicated. In this episode, hosts Andy and Kelly are joined by John and Julie Price, a couple with uniquely different upbringings who came together to raise their own sons and care for hundreds of boys at Eagle Ranch.

John, the middle child of 13 kids from a dairy farm, and Julie, a last-born missionary kid who grew up in Brazil, open up about the challenges and rewards of their family and house-parenting journey. They share deeply personal stories about learning to relinquish control, embracing vulnerability, and the transformative power of a simple apology. This episode is a powerful reminder that every family has a dynamic to navigate and that authenticity is the key to building real connection.

Episode Highlights

• [01:10] John and Julie introduce themselves, their radically different backgrounds, and their roles at Eagle Ranch.
• [06:20] How their diverse family histories prepared them for a life of working with children and families.
• [11:00] Julie's personal story of learning to love without control while house-parenting seven teenage boys.
• [17:00] The powerful impact of apologizing to your children and teaching them to ask for forgiveness.
• [21:00] Practical tips for parents of adolescent boys, including why they crave respect and authenticity.
• [25:50] A heartwarming story of a son's vulnerability and a powerful conversation on trust.

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What does it really mean to have a healthy family dynamic? In this episode, we're joined by licensed professional counselor and family expert, Philip Costa, who helps us uncover the powerful ways our history and our day-to-day lives shape our families.

Philip shares how personal trauma, loss, and even birth order can influence our parenting in ways we're not always aware of. He introduces the powerful concept that what's not revealed is not healed, and gives listeners a clear path to begin addressing their own family dynamics. You'll also learn the difference between training and controlling your child, and why giving yourself grace is the first step toward creating lasting change.

Episode Highlights

• [01:10] Philip introduces himself and shares his personal story of loss, adoption, and being a blended family.
• [03:10] Defining family dynamics and how they impact every family, regardless of its unique makeup.
• [05:50] How to begin identifying your own family's dynamics and the importance of being aware of them.
• [12:20] Philip explains why what's not revealed isn't healed and how unresolved issues can get transferred to your children.
• [14:15] An explanation of the difference between training your child and controlling them.
• [23:00] Philip's top three pieces of advice for parents feeling overwhelmed and seeking to create change.

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• Book: What Happened to You? by Bruce Perry
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In last week’s episode, we learned from an expert about how our childhoods and family history can impact our parenting. This week, our co-host Kelly Brewer gets vulnerable and shares her own deeply personal story of how her upbringing shaped her journey as a parent.

In this powerful episode, Kelly dives into her "happy, carefree" childhood and reveals the underlying emotional challenges she faced. She candidly shares her own moments of desperation, poor choices, and self-loathing, and how a surprising moment of grace changed her life forever. This episode is a raw, real, and inspiring testimony that no one is beyond hope.

Episode Highlights:

• [01:39] Kelly shares her family of origin story as the baby of the family.
• [03:58] The hidden truth beneath a "happy-go-lucky" childhood.
• [07:22] How seeking happiness in the wrong places led to a deep, dark spiral.
• [12:28] The breaking point and a pivotal moment of finding grace and forgiveness.
• [18:08] A crisis in adulthood that led to a new season of healing and growth.
• [21:07] How Kelly’s parenting changed as she began to address her own history and patterns.
• [25:50] An encouraging reminder: It’s never too late to parent your kids or find healing.

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