Character extraordinaire and lover of pugs, Vicki Hanes joins Norm this week. Vicki tells Norm what it was like living in New York City at the height of the pandemic. They also discuss the question of how many years it takes to get to the main stage. In the moment it may feel like two is enough, but there is always more to learn. 

You can find Vicki on Instagram @Theyoungvic

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