Marshall and David discuss the reference to PTSD* (04:17) and curse word (09:31) in the podcast's title. Other topics: the way the NFL communicates gambling rules to players (19:13), perception vs. reality (32:01), and late-night talk shows (38:22). Pop-culture references: movies Bird Box (2018) and The Damned United (2009). Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)" *Former full title was "SHIT2GRIT: The Detroit Lions PTSD recovery podcast"

"It was an old desk"

We're master relationship coach Marshall Zweig and commercial artist David Hughes: longtime friends, and long-suffering fans of the Detroit Lions—a team synonymous our entire lives with losing.

Well...they used to be.

SHIT2GRIT℠ is about getting hurt, about opening back up, about shedding old perspectives and adopting new ones.

For us, football is a chance to go deep.

Join our friendship as we explore memories, debrief experiences, master communication…and root for the team in Honolulu blue. | marshallzweig.com/shit2grit | @2023 Zweig/Hughes | WARNING: ADULT LANGUAGE

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We're master relationship coach Marshall Zweig and commercial artist David Hughes: longtime friends, and long-suffering fans of the Detroit Lions—a team synonymous our entire lives with losing. Well...they used to be. SHIT2GRIT℠ is about getting hurt, about opening back up, about shedding old perspectives and adopting new ones. For us, football is a chance to go deep. Join our friendship as we explore memories, debrief experiences, master communication…and root for the team in Honolulu blue. | marshallzweig.com/shit2grit | @2023 Zweig/Hughes | WARNING: ADULT LANGUAGE

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