ITL235: The Wild Story of My Career: Touring With Joan Rivers and Cher (Pt. 2 of 3)

On this week’s episode, I’m continuing to talk about the events

that have shaped my career and how I learned to be willing and

ready to pivot.

I wasn’t clear on my direction when I started—I had no

clue this was in the cards for me.

I was willing to endure some things I thought were useless or

miserable and look for what I could learn from them.

There are things that happened to me 40 years ago that I can

now use as stories to help other people.

I never thought that living under the pier would be

anything good. I was just trying to endure and get out of

there.

Normally, people don’t want to be under pressure. But I can

show you evidence over and over that peoples’ best work happens

under pressure.

The proper perspective trumps almost everything.

I was able to tour with Joan Rivers for two

years.

Opening acts normally don’t get paid much anywhere—but the huge

benefit is the exposure.

I learned how to treat an opening act from Joan.

Joan’s manager also managed Cher. So I got the opportunity to

work with her as well.

Tune in to hear about:

My experience touring with Joan and the extreme generosity she

showed me.

The night Howard Stern watched me perform.

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