Happy Thanksgiving, listeners! Here is the collaboration you have all been waiting for! John and Lauren Matthias, hosts of Hidden: A True Crime Podcast joins TCO for a candid conversation about the Vallow & Daybell case. The Hidden true-crime podcast explores the hidden motives behind unimaginable crimes including the Vallow & Daybell case. Dr. John is a forensic psychologist and Lauren is a long-time journalist. This married couple has dived into the psychological avenues of the Vallow/Daybell cases while examining why serial predators do what they do. You can find their podcast now at:

https://open.spotify.com/show/3mvwYdfADoV1AMz8tA4vXP