In this episode, Andrew and John pray for rain. But first some voicemails about Aaron Lewis and Rage Against the Machine, the benefits of our rambling, and how Driver Eight and Morella's Forest are perfect and also not perfect. Then some listener music! Also, Andrew recaps the Minnesota State Fair and shares audio of a fair weird beer taste test. Finally, an interview with Joel Heng Hartse, author, academic, and lover all thing's 90's Christian rock. Check out his new book Dancing About Architecture Is a Reasonable Thing to Do: Writing about Music, Meaning, and the Ineffable. Interview begins at 43:45.