In this episode, Andrew and John have some tea and cake. But first, some listener voicemails! Did the dudes go too hard on the Whole EP on their Patreon episode? Plus some listener thoughts on the song "Secret of the Easy Yoke." Then, Andrew and John welcome Cortland Coffey (Thereafter Podcast) and Meghan Crozier (Thereafter Podcast, The Pursuing Life) to the pod to discuss Pedro the Lion, religious deconstruction, reclaiming CCM music, and authenticity. Finally, track by track of the Pedro the Lion album "Winner's Never Quit." Album discussion begins at 1:09:09.