In this episode, Andrew and John go to a skating party. Joining the pod this week is Andrew Gill. He is a senior producer of the beloved music podcast Sound Opinions, former host of the WBEZ beer podcast Strange Brews, and co-creator of an upcoming PRX narrative podcast examining how the Christian music industry has impacted American culture. We talk about how important indie music was to him growing up in Florida, the Athens, Georgia music scene, and how he made Joe Christmas his identity. Then we go track by track of the Joe Christmas album "Upstairs Overlooking." Band and album discussion begins at 46:28.