It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.

Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.

In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.

If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

• 00:00 — Intro
• 01:19 — Tech is People
• 03:10 — Tech as a cultural phenomenon 
• 16:50 — The Beginning of the End
• 23:30 — AI and what's next for design
• 30:37 — Bring back messiness
• 39:12 — Design in service of Scenius
• 46:39 — Future Jobs 🤷🏻‍♂️
• 49: 25 — Confusion as a design strategy
• 56:50 — Complexity is given
• 1:01:00 — Outro

LINKS

• Design in Tech — https://designintech.report/
• Watch Brands and misbehaving CEO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wNPi8YkZ4&t=1247s
• Watch brands .. who owns who: https://wshop360.com/cdn/shop/articles/img_4289_1200x1200.jpg?v=1580400847 
• Adaptive Path — https://medium.com/@adaptivepath
• Snow White design language — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_White_design_language
• Blanding — https://www.fastcompany.com/90276496/blanding-the-hottest-branding-trend-of-the-year-is-also-the-worst
• Claude 3' system prompt — https://twitter.com/amandaaskell/status/1765207842993434880
• Technological Revolutions and Financial Capital — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_Revolutions_and_Financial_Capital
• Scenius — https://www.wired.com/2008/06/scenius-or-comm/
• On Joy Division — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy5nKqLpTOE
• Happy Accidents — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht9LMYivBnM
• Malthusianism — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism
• Seeing Like a State — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State

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• It's Just A Model podcast: https://itsjustamodel.com
• Ron Kersic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic
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It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.

Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.

In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.

If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

• 00:00 — Intro
• 02:00 — The conditions of Making
• 11:47 — A tinfoil theory of the open office
• 17:25 — The Gold Standard of Working
• 20:30 — "Users", "Citizens", ...
• 28:28 — "Undo" in Making
• 30:35 — Of Peace, War, and Wonder
• 41:45 — The Innovators' AI(?)
• 50:20 — Selling certainty (where there's none)
• 54: 40 — Designing for the Messy Whole
• 1:01:50 — Wrapping up

LINKS

• The Apartment — https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053604/
• Herman Miller Action Office — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Office
• Casey Neistat — https://youtu.be/Aj6-U7GVDt8?si=VBRDf7YEO2sMQYav&t=128
• Designing Roles — https://position.futuring-architectures.com/position/frame/roles
• Pace Layering — https://www.solvingforpattern.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/pace_layering.jpg
• Simon Wardley — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wardley
• Peace, War, Wonder — https://blog.gardeviance.org/2014/04/from-a1-to-a6.html
• More or Less Podcast — https://www.youtube.com/@MoreorLessPod
• The "Stingray" model — https://www.boardofinnovation.com/webinars/ai-powered-design-the-stingray-model/
• The Double Diamond — https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/
• Practice with Peet — https://www.youtube.com/@practicewithpeet
• Hot vs Cool  Media

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• It's Just A Model podcast: https://itsjustamodel.com
• Ron Kersic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic
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It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.

Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.

In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.

If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

• 00:00 — Intro
• 01:22 — A “crypto bro” turns to “tech”
• 10:50 — The Kickstarter mentality taken too far
• 17:50 — Framing AI’s framing
• 31:10 — AI hampers creativity? (yes, but also no)
• 44:01 — Aesthetics of AI, aesthetics in AI
• 54:05 — Unframe all the things!!!
• 56:40 — Wrapping up

LINKS

• Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddTV12hErTc&pp=ygUMTUtCSEQgcmFiYml0
• https://www.inverse.com/tech/rabbit-r1-jesse-lyu-interview-artificial-intelligence
• “Here's Why The Production Cybertruck is a Failure” — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9a3GR1HJY
• “$30,000,000 AI Is Hiding a Scam” — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPOHf20slZg&t=196s
• Mapping the Mind of a Large Language Model — https://www.anthropic.com/research/mapping-mind-language-model
• Anthropic hires Instagram co-founder as head of product — https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/15/anthropic-hires-instagram-co-founder-as-head-of-product/
• Speeds and Feeds — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeds_and_feeds
• Artificial Creativity — https://rushkoff.substack.com/p/artificial-creativity
• Work vs Management 2x2 — https://johannesklingebiel.de/wiki/Artificial%20Intelligence/01_automation.html
• Bicycling and feminism —https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycling_and_feminism

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• Peet Sneekes - https://peetsneekes.com

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It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.

Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.

In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into a informal, unscripted conversation.

If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

• 00:00 — Intro
• 02:33 — Ideas exist in between people
• 04:32 — How technology dies in optimisation…
• 11:10 — …and so *will* digital tech
• 16:50 —  Grifters and peak tech culture
• 23:36 —  “The Milieu” of oversaturation
• 29:55 —  What’s next, then?
• 36:45 —  Rewilding and Enchantment
• 47:10 —  Do not get boxed in; be more like Feynman
• 54:38 —  The “user” deception
  
  

LINKS

• Cutty Sark —  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutty_Sark
• Lockheed Constellation —  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation
• Retrograde —  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_and_prograde_motion
• The Worst Product Review — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TitZV6k8zfA&t=1234s
• Artifact —   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artifact_(app)
• Weird Science — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)
• ChatGPT is a Blurry JPEG —  https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/chatgpt-is-a-blurry-jpeg-of-the-web
• Rewild the Internet —  https://www.noemamag.com/we-need-to-rewild-the-internet/
• Joseph Paxton —  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Paxton
• Disenchantment —  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disenchantment
• Feynman diagram —  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman_diagram

ABOUT US

• It's Just A Model podcast: https://itsjustamodel.com
• Ron Kersic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic
• Peet Sneekes - https://peetsneekes.com

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It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.

Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.

In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into a informal, unscripted conversation.

CHAPTERS

Timecodes

• 00:00 — Intro
• 02:00 – More episodes than Sharknado
• 05:00 – AI, Foresighting, Oracle & Muse
• 13:15 – Gravity & Aesthetics in models
• 17:15 – Generative AI as tomatos (no, really)
• 24:04 – The Information Super Highway, revisited
• 32:55 –  AI as an UI; that’s it?
• 41:20 –  Taste is our super power
• 47:25  – Lexical Gaps
• 56:05 – Cooling down

LINKS

• Foresight, a method in futures studies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresight_(futures_studies)
• Ben Burtt - Designer of the Star Wars sounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBKKXjNf1sE
• Strategic Foresight – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_foresight
• Joshua Davis – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Davis_(designer)
• Taste for Makers – https://www.paulgraham.com/taste.html
• Information Superhighway – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_superhighway
• Article about AI as a Muse, rather than an Oracle: https://www.geoffreylitt.com/2023/02/26/llm-as-muse-not-oracle.html
• The book Ron mentions: Beauty Is Our Business: A Birthday Salute to Edsger W. Dijkstra - https://amzn.to/4duxyA8
• SGI Indigo – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indigo
• The bosses of rival chip giants Nvidia and AMD are cousins: https://www.businessinsider.com/nvidia-jensen-huang-amd-lisa-su-taiwan-family-ai-chips-2023-11?international=true&r=US&IR=T
• Zork – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork 
• Amazon – Just Walk Out

ABOUT US

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• Ron Kersic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic
• Peet Sneekes - https://peetsneekes.com

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This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that traverses all gradients of the interstitium. Here, we saturate, illuminate and articulate matters of innovation, tech, design and our collective behaviour. 

Your hosts are Ron Kersic, the benevolent programmer of all your top brass and architect of the technology and humanity convergence, and Peet Sneekes, soon-to-be compensated empathic design evangelist.

In this podcast, we’ll discuss the good, the bad, and the interesting in an informal, unscripted conversation.

If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

• 00:00 — Intro
• 02:48 — Automating for a (gasp!) reason
• 09:36 — Reverse Centaurs of AI
• 14:25 — Learning, no matter what
• 18:00 — Mass-everything (the end of)
• 25:02 — The people’s AI
• 31:43 — Swinging back from optimization (and IT)
• 39:05 — Backtrack and remake
• 47:07 — The new paradigm: taste v skill
• 56:08 — A call to action
• 59:56 — In closing: a rant on Patreon

LINKS

•  Computer Says No — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YGZPycMEU
• Modula 2 — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modula-2
• The Saturn V — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V
• The Interstitium — https://orionmagazine.org/article/interstitium-scientific-discovery-anatomy
• Halting Problem — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem
• Fuzzy Logic — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic

ABOUT US

• It's Just A Model podcast: https://itsjustamodel.com
• Ron Kersic -   https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  
• Peet Sneekes  - https://peetsneekes.com

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This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that travels the interstitium, past the trends and the outrage, straight to the meaning and beauty of tech, design, behavior and innovation. 

Your hosts are Ron Kersic, reversed historian and tech maven and freelance time traveler Peet Sneekes.

In this podcast we’ll be exposing hidden connections, lay bare  possible futures and discuss the unimaginable.  

Oh and If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good old disagreement, then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

Timecodes

• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:04 - Ron's news letters vs podcasts
• 2:20 - Pace Layers, or pace Layering
• 3:19 - Ron's book: How Buildings Work
• 10:35 - Peet talks about Smart Cities and how pace layering fits into that view
• 18:00 - Events, Culture and Paradigm shifts
• 22:45 - A fail safe to paradigm shifts
• 24:00 - There is no blood brain barrier in digital, so things tend to escalate quite quickly
• 28:00 - An example of 'Sheering layers' with our social media
• 30:00 - Measure of appreciation
• 34:00 - Increasing luck: do all kinds of things
• 36:30 - Maximize success by learning
• 42:30 - Being aware of your own ecosystem - Subscribe vs Participation
• 44:25 - Predictions on legislation
• 45:15 - Creative Agencies, Government and Procurement
• 49:30 - Sheering layers, Jony Ive (Annequote)

LINKS

• Link that Vasilis shared with us: https://adactio.medium.com/pace-layers-and-design-principles-dcdf2b26c059
• Inspired look at Pace Layering by Stewart Brand: https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/issue3-brand/release/2
• The Long Now Foundation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Now_Foundation
• Ron's book tip: "How Buildings Learn: What Happens After They're Built": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Buildings_Learn
• Thomas Kuhn: Paradigm Shifts: https://www.simplypsychology.org/kuhn-paradigm.html
• The article by Byrne Hobart in the Diff: https://www.thediff.co/archive/svb-in-retrospect/amp/
• Victor Knaap's article on procurement in government (Dutch):

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• Ron Kersic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic
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This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that looks lovingly in the face of the interstitium of beauty, business, and ambivalent bravoure.

Your hosts are Ron Kersic, the voice of future past and the architect of third horizon fiction and Peet Sneekes, strategic storyteller and speculative futures fan.

In this podcast we’ll be caressing stories that peeked our interrest and surface the true intent, or devious implication of architecture, behaviour and design.  

Oh and If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good old disagreement, then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
01:54 - The Galactic Compass 
06:30 - Taste and Skills in Generative AI
13:26 - Nostalgia In, Nostalgia Out (again)
18:20 - Beauty in Things Going Wrong
26:00 - The value *in* the journey
33:00 - Your vested audience
40:10 - Imperfections are not a bug
47:12 - The A.I. aesthetic 
51:56 - The vault mentality

LINKS

• Interconnected.org - https://interconnected.org/home/2024/02/15/galactic-compass
• Klarna - https://www.klarna.com/international/press/klarna-ai-assistant-handles-two-thirds-of-customer-service-chats-in-its-first-month/
• Sora's Tokyo Walk - https://cdn.openai.com/sora/videos/tokyo-walk.mp4
• The OG Orginal Thinker - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman
• Kwebbelkop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiV0lz_SQP4 
• Rick Deckard - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Deckard
• H.R. Giger - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._Giger
• Tipping ChatGPT - https://minimaxir.com/2024/02/chatgpt-tips-analysis/
• Max Headroom - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom
• Prince's work ethic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECGcTM_gk4s

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• Ro

ABOUT US

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• Peet Sneekes - https://peetsneekes.com

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This is Just a Model, the podcast on the interstitium of ethics, business, politics and citizenship.

Your hosts are Ron Kersic,  the humanistic architect of the future and the dorsal stream of tech and Peet Sneekes, creative strategist and hypothetical system thinker.

In this podcast we’ll be furiously interrogating the topics we select with the intent to peal away the veneer and focus on the essence. 

If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good dad joke, then you should return that value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
01:00 Intersection and Design
10:00 Designing organisations
18:40 The Vision Pro, (not so) Social Tools
31:00 Keynote, Magic Move, delightful surprises
35:00 What-if Disney...
40:22 Malleable organisations
43:00 Hypermedia storytelling
52:00 Creativity and self-inflicted limitations

LINKS

• https://intersectionbook.com/, https://www.enterprise.design/
• https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/
• https://www.nber.org/papers/w31980
• https://megmittelstedt.substack.com/p/criti-hyp
• https://www.amazon.com/Disney-Ran-Your-Hospital-Differently/dp/0974386014
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork

ABOUT US

• It's Just A Model podcast: https://itsjustamodel.com
• Ron Kersic -   https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  
• Peet Sneekes  - https://peetsneekes.com

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This is Just a Model, the podcast on the interstitium of making, beauty, design, the nerdy and the wonderful. 

Your hosts are Ron Kersic,  transitional tech architect and Rubergian storyteller and Peet Sneekes, kinetic thinker and  holistic innovator.

In this podcast we’ll be investigating stories with a relentless curiosity and honesty, so we can learn the underlying, the interstitial, the unintended ramification .

If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good dad joke, then please return that value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.

CHAPTERS

Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
01:52 - It’s *not* the time to build (anymore)
07:25 - Not having Silicon Valley questions (anymore)
10:24 - Hackable technology 👈 **Note**: could leave this out
15:54 - The End of the Beginning of Technology
20:47 - It’s just a platform
24:34 - Find that undiscovered country
38:26 - The genius is in the scene
44:14 - Overton Window of Tech
51:05 - Crafting instead of Consuming
57:27 - Wrap up

LINKS
- Studebaker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker
- The End of Coding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l222fIkesAY
- Pokimane: https://www.dexerto.com/kick/will-pokimane-stream-on-kick-claims-of-massive-75m-deal-go-viral-2508765/
- Joe Rogan: https://www.nbcnews.com/media/spotify-joe-rogan-new-deal-rcna136997
- The Morioka Shoten bookstore: https://bookriot.com/japanese-bookstore-morioka-shoten/
- Brian Eno’s Scenius: https://kk.org/thetechnium/scenius-or-comm/
- Payment Service Directive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive
- Overton Window: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
- It’s time to build: https://a16z.com/its-time-to-build/
- Origin of the hashtag: https://buffer.com/resources/a-concise-history-of-twitter-hashtags-and-how-you-should-use-them-properly/
- IKEA Hacker

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