It’s been brought to my attention that when I say “I hate small talk, I want to be deep,” some people have interpreted that as “I want to be dark and sad all the time,” which is not at all the case.

So I brought on Cody Beck, one of my best friends, to demonstrate what I find to be a deep and interesting discussion.

We revisit last week’s topic, indifference, along with the first chapter of How to Know a Person by David Brooks, which also explores this topic.

The goal of this conversation is to figure out how we feel about indifference - what does it mean? Is it good? Is it bad? Etc. The point is not for us to arrive at the same conclusion or to agree with each other, but to help each other arrive at a conclusion and understand how we each got to where we land.

• 00:00 Intro
• 05:10 Recapping last week’s topic of indifference
• 11:28 Emotional data points and being known
• 17:46 Communication and therapy
• 18:49 Is indifference inherently bad?
• 23:18 What does indifference actually mean?
• 29:50 How to Know a Person by David Brooks
• 42:56 When someone assigns a personality trait you disagree with
• 57:29 Feeling seen
• 01:10:31 How new information changes an opinion

Cody Beck is the creator and co-host of American Hauntings Podcast, which is available wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more here: https://www.codybeck.com/american-hauntings-podcast

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