In this episode, Melanie is joined by Katrina Lelli, host of the Just As We Are podcast. 

Together they jump head-first into a juicy discussion that was generated from a reel of Brené Brown sharing an important message for today: We chase what is fun, fast, and easy...And it is actually about doing what is right over what is fun, fast, and easy!

Jump in and be the fly on the wall for their whole conversation. 

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