In this episode, Michael and Sam sit down with Daniel Miessler, founder of Unsupervised Learning, for a thought-provoking conversation that spans the future of cybersecurity and Daniel’s unique personal journey. They dive into the escalating arms race between attackers and defenders, explore how Daniel’s path shifted from pre-med to cybersecurity thought leader, and preview his upcoming HOU.SEC.CON. talk, “Killer Context: How AI Will Eat Security and Software.”

Things Mentioned:

• Unsupervised Learning - https://newsletter.danielmiessler.com
• Google says its AI-based bug hunter found 20 security vulnerabilities - https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/04/google-says-its-ai-based-bug-hunter-found-20-security-vulnerabilities/
• Register for HOU.SEC.CON. - https://web.cvent.com/event/9ba9c5ea-9502-44a2-922e-d026c047c9f3/register?rp=7fc495f3-0ae2-4b86-a115-0ce784642a9f

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In this episode:

• Host: Michael Farnum
• Host: Sam Van Ryder
• Guest: Daniel Miessler
• Production and editing: Lauren Andrus
• Music by: August Honey