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We're trying really hard to keep our customers' data safe, but we all know given the number of attacks happening, our number will eventually come up, and we'll lose your data just like every other organization you trusted.

This week's episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Mike Johnson. Our guest is Sandy Dunn (@sub0girl), CISO, Blue Cross of Idaho.

Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Expel

Expel offers companies of all shapes and sizes the capabilities of a modern Security Operations Center without the cost and headache of managing one.

• Dissecting Allen Gwynn's "one strike" opinion piece
• Transitioning cybersec into a mindset for all employees
• Shifting the risk: buying cyberinsurance instead of tools
• What's the proper way to behave during a breach?