The sisters call Cydne Nash, a wise co-social worker, to see how she and her family are doing in quarantine. The conversation exemplifies the richness of Kat and Cynde’s regular office chats and their friendship across their very different life experiences. The conversation goes deep on race, motherhood, human nature, and creating spaces of kindness.

Cydne references Mocha Moms, the premier voice for mothers of color.