In this episode, Esther and Eileen discuss the complex world of feeling burnt out.  It's a common theme among women in middle age and it goes much further than just being exhausted by work (a common misconception). They consider how exploring their wildest desires could lead to understanding how to overcome these feelings, what happens when your "tools" don't work (and you turn to substances), and paths to reconsidering how we spend our time to live better.