<p>Jillian Gothelf joins me on Not That Deep after we took a salsa class. We met on birthright in 2017, started a podcast, ended the podcast (amicably; duh…) and now are each others camera women in the city for our interviews in the park, where we literally get rejected for sport. We talk Wicked, friendship, birthright; listen in and listen to her podcast “Hotter In Person”!! </p>

Jillian Gothelf joins me on Not That Deep after we took a salsa class. We met on birthright in 2017, started a podcast, ended the podcast (amicably; duh…) and now are each others camera women in the city for our interviews in the park, where we literally get rejected for sport. We talk Wicked, friendship, birthright; listen in and listen to her podcast “Hotter In Person”!!

It’s unorthodox is not that deep with Jillian Gothelf ep 20

Life actually is that deep. There is a lot of deepness we all experience and have yet to experience. The little aspects of our lives and days that can feel like a big deal at the moment, those are not that deep. In Not That Deep, we get deep, and we also touch on what's not that deep. What are these things that can FEEL so deep - but we take a step back and can say, well wait a second... that's not that deep. Also like ... let's crack up.

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It’s unorthodox is not that deep with Jillian Gothelf ep 20

It’s unorthodox is not that deep with Jillian Gothelf ep 20