Ben is a technical designer for games. He loves to code. Does that sound creative to you? It doesn’t matter because the iterative process of coding is where he finds his creative voice.  He’s also an Arsenal fan and when we recorded this, Arsenal were leading the premier league. He predicted they wouldn’t win. They didn’t.

We always found ourselves talking in podcasts long before I made this show and I must credit him with giving me the confidence to do it.