prolific pittsburgh artist and therapist-to-be clare welsh gets on the horn w. karla & ashlee to discuss living in a studio apartment throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, what's on her altar, how artistic action can interrupt looping thoughts, the connections between creative and social work, the "honesty" of "bad art," telehealth as a "line to sanity," and getting to know ones "incorrigible self." 

show notes: 

13:07 - elisabeth o'rourke - https://elisabethorourke.com/collections/prints 

13:11 - alison cujoh -  https://www.instagram.com/alisoncujoh/

17:22 - francesca woodman - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/francesca_woodman 

31:52 - "chapter after chapter" by heather sellers - https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/381442 

41:14 - "the acceptance jar" ritual from "we: a manifesto for women everywhere" by gillian anderson & jennifer nadel - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26195194-we?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=gPyEczYHD6&rank=1 

45:10 - teal swan - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1KIUp4PNCyIwCPTq1hYzWQ 

49:10 - "you do not have to be good" from mary oliver's "wild geese" - http://www.phys.unm.edu/~tw/fas/yits/archive/oliver_wildgeese.html

53:00 - clare welsh - https://www.instagram.com/clarewelsh/ & https://twitter.com/cc_welsh