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Robert shares how he and Peter brainstormed their concept of Role Space. Their starting point of "start with the expected" helps us clear the metaphors from our heads that have been used for decades. We can start to understand what is the interpreter's role better.

[A special thank you to Hana Manková for giving us that wonderful French phrase.]

Next episode we finish our chat with Robert G Lee. See you then.

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