Button downs, but make it fashion! This week, Nadia and Steve talk with writer and podcast host Joe Saunders (@saundersjoe) about the specific topic of J. Crew men's button up/down shirts. Yes, men's shirts, specifically from preppy fashion mall store J. Crew. We get into why Joe loves these shirts and being fashionable and current trends in men's fashion, plus Madewell, Jenna Lyons, and more. Is J. Crew suggesting we wear a ditsy floral print with white denim?! What kind of shirt doesn't hug a man's belly? And why does Nadia's kitchen smell?! Let's do this again some time!