On August 13, 2012, the Academy's Masters with Masters series featured aerospace heavyweights Jack Boyd and Hans Mark at Ames Research Center. Boyd, senior advisor to the NASA Ames Center Director and 65-year veteran of Moffett Field, served as the former NASA associate administrator and acting deputy center director at Ames. Mark, former NASA Deputy Administrator and Ames Center Director, also served roles as Chancellor of the University of Texas; former Secretary and Undersecretary of the U.S. Air Force; Director of the National Reconnaissance Office; and Director of the Department of Defense/Defense Research and Engineering. Reflecting on their early careers and offering insights for the next generation, Boyd and Mark covered a range of topics including the transition from Apollo to Shuttle, the agency's tolerance for risk, the role of research and technology in NASA's future, models for innovation, and young professional recruitment and career development.