In this interview Matt Crawford speaks with Sara Gorman PhD and Jack Gorman MD about their book Denying to the Grave. Why do some parents refuse to vaccinate their children? Why do some feel that the COVID-19 is not a serious threat despite the death toll? Gorman and Gorman go into the psychology of heath science denial and break down why so many of us don't trust the science. Gently, both authors show us how to combat our own confirmation bias and how we can make each other better informed. A necessary and informative read, I hope you all will.