<p>In this episode, I talk with <a href="https://twitter.com/sintixerr">Jack Whitsitt</a>, senior strategist at EnergySec. We discuss the ways in which language can either divide or unite people and organizations, the illusion of control when it comes to security, and how any model or framework for security must include people in order to have any chance of success. </p>

In this episode, I talk with Jack Whitsitt, senior strategist at EnergySec. We discuss the ways in which language can either divide or unite people and organizations, the illusion of control when it comes to security, and how any model or framework for security must include people in order to have any chance of success.

<p>In this episode, I talk with <a href="https://twitter.com/sintixerr" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jack Whitsitt</a>, senior strategist at EnergySec. We discuss the ways in which language can either divide or unite people and organizations, the illusion of control when it comes to security, and how any model or framework for security must include people in order to have any chance of success. </p>

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Jack Whitsitt on the need to band together to make security better for everyone