Women have been making cider and brandy for centuries - so where are they in the history books? A look at who gets written into and out of history through the lens of one of the most enduring apple brandy cocktails of all time, the Jack Rose.

In ancient times making alcohol was seen as a mystic art, something done to commune with the divine and heal the sick. In colonial America, it was done to preserve surplus harvests and keep produce from going to waste. In each case, and every millennium in between, the work was done by women. Now we see alcohol as a male-dominated field, both when it comes to producing and serving. By looking at the Jack Rose, which has changed in its own way over the years, Greg and his co-host Jess look at how women were written out of the story and how they could be written back.

Our guests on this episode are Dr. Nicola Nice of the Women’s Cocktail Collective, Diane Flynt of Foggy Ridge Cider in Virginia, Jen Querbes of Brandy St. Louise, and Lisa Laird Dunn, a ninth-generation apple brandy distiller from New Jersey. And you can find more amazing music from Jess, who wrote the music for and performed the eua de vie recipe here!

The books referenced on this show were Imbibe by David Wondrich, Meehan’s Bartending Guide by Jim Meehan, and Jones Complete Bar Guide by Stan Jones.

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