This episode covers a little bit of everything.

We talk Star Trek trilogies hidden inside larger franchises, supporting our friend Laurie Carruthers at her sold-out Toronto theatre show, and the unique experience of sitting front row in a very intimate venue.

From there, the conversation drifts into Star Wars, home gyms, pre-workout drinks, getting older, and trying to stay in shape without completely losing the plot.

One of those episodes where the conversation just keeps evolving.