The 2022 Audio Vanguard Award was awarded to Jad Abumrad, creator of 'Radiolab.' In this interview with Anna Sale (creator and host of ​Death, Sex & Money​) we celebrate Abumrad's remarkable career. Hear all about the early years of Radiolab, and how Jad and his team navigated creative challenges and transitions to make one of the most well known audio programs of our day.

At the end of the interview, cake was distributed to the audience, who stood to sing "Happy Birthday" to Radiolab on the occasion of its 20th anniversary.