On Beyond The Bricks, Jake Query and Mike Thomsen take a look at a pair of Indy 500 rookies in 1981, Josele Garza and Kevin Cogan. They talk about Garza’s hot start at Indianapolis in ‘81, and how he learned from three-time champion Bobby Unser. 

Jake and Mike discuss the origins of “(Back Home Again in) Indiana” at the Indy 500. Later, we hear historic audio from Josele Garza, including him taking phone calls from fans on the “Talk From Gasoline Alley” in 1982. To wrap up the show, the guys look at the career of Kevin Cogan, who is perhaps unfairly best known for the crash at the start of the 1982 500.

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