A conversation with Jake Germany of Phangs & Cardboard Kids. Jake also spent some time playing in Texas electronic-pop project, The Secret Handshake, and now plays keys for Relient K. Go check out Phangs' new album, GET IN MY ARMS, out everywhere you get music! Become a supporter of TLW at patreon.com/thelocalwave Follow us on social media @thelocalwave BE A FAN OF YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER!