The Only Constant

Jakob Freund | On AI Agents in deterministic processes, and new dimensions of orchestration | Episode #70

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In this episode, Lasse Rindom speaks with Jakob Freund, CEO of Camunda, on what it really means to build AI-driven automation that’s enterprise-ready - without losing grip on governance, process integrity, or human responsibility.

Their lively, deep-cutting discussion covers:

  • The realistic path to AI value - why it’s still about measurable automation, not magic
  • Jakob’s framework of blending deterministic workflows with dynamic agentic AI
  • The rise of “enterprise-grade agents” that own processes (not just perform tasks)
  • How Camunda's orchestration layer became the missing link between structure and AI flexibility
  • Governance, crumple zones, hallucinations, and who really ends up in jail when the agent fails

    • Do you want to know more about Jacob Freund?

    Jakob is the co-founder and chief executive officer, and is responsible for setting a bold vision and strategy for Camunda. He is also the driving force behind Camunda’s global growth and cohesive company culture. Jakob co-authored the best-selling book, “Real-Life BPMN,” and is a sought-after speaker at technology and industry events. He holds an MSc in computer science from Hochschule für Technik und Wirtschaft Berlin.

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