In this engaging conversation, Rian-Louis interviews Jalenography, a choreographer and creative director, about his journey in the dance world and the significance of representation for LGBTQ+ voices, particularly within the black community. They discuss the launch of Jalenography's project, INCLUSIPHY VOL 1 , which features a collaboration of black queer artists and aims to create a platform for their voices. The conversation highlights the importance of community, collaboration, and the creative process behind the project, as well as Jalenography's aspirations for the future and advice for the younger generation.