Listen in as Dr. Frank Lipman talks with Jim Gordan, MD, mind-body medicine pioneer, and one of his oldest friends and mentors. Dr. Lipman who is often called one of the "fathers" of the holistic medical approach calls Dr. Gordan the "Granddaddy" of the movement. Dr. Gordan's new book, The Transformation - Discovering Wholeness and Healing After Trauma, is a step-by-step, evidence-based journey to heal the psychological and biological damage that trauma brings and helps people become who they are meant to be.