I talk with James from PA about his Cassette tape label Orb Tapes and some CDs they just did a sweet bastard noise release along with others then James is in a 2 piece act called Moth Bucket and we talk all those things and all over the place OH Disclaimer there is a point where AC gets talked about and it's not chill and James didn't understand what I was saying so he didn't respond in right way because yeah he agrees they are messed up and seth deserved that and doesn't back that acts stupidly