In our first 20th anniversary special of 'How to be a Journalist' our guests for this week's episode of the pod are pivotal in the story of News Associates.

So, to lend Plamedi a hand in understanding the story of News Associates James Toney and Richard Parsons tell the story of NA's beginnings, highlights and obstacles faced within 20 years.

Hear insights about the changing media landscape and how NA went from upstarts to the best journalism training school in the country.

In 20 years, there have been many successes with NA grads finding themselves in a variety of positions from editors to MPs to athletes all using the skills they've learnt on an NA course to good use.

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Edited and presented by Plamedi Mbungu.

Produced by Grace Crowley.