This week we are back in my tiny flat for a very moving and vulnerable chat with my first male podcast guest. Jamie weathered district line closures and technical difficulties to come and chat to me and I am so hugely grateful. 

Jamie is the host of Man Down, a podcast and set of vulnerable conversations between men with the explicit aim of destigmatising men’s mental health. In our own chat Jamie describes the mental health journey that led him here and also where it’s taking him as he qualifies to become a breath work instructor. 

I truly believe that honest vulnerable conversations like this could be life saving for men and if Jamie, who spent much of his life in hyper-masculine sport environments, can do it hopefully others can to. I appreciate Jamie’s candid nature in this chat and there is a brief moment where we discuss suicide (32 - 35 min) which could be upsetting for some people.

You can find Jamie on Instagram @jamieclements_ and Man Down wherever you get your podcasts.