On the very first episode of The State Of The Fourth Estate, hosts Tayla Oates @taystyporridge and Sura Mishra sit down with audio journalist and broadcast journalism Associate Lecturer Janak Rogers to discuss bringing out the human side of a political story, staying hopeful in the current media climate and the way forward for young journalists.

Listen to "Life on the border: Tijuana migrant stories" by Janak Rogers.

The piece featured is "Act V by Jack Hitt" on This American Life, hosted by Ira Glass.

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