Summary

In this episode, Jarvis Moore (Design Systems: LinkedIn & Microsoft) discusses the intricacies of design systems, sharing his journey from graphic design to specializing in this niche. He emphasizes the importance of understanding design systems, the roles of designers and developers, and the balance between flexibility and rigidity. The conversation also covers the significance of collaboration, governance, and measuring success in design systems, as well as the impact of AI on the future of design. Jarvis provides insights on how to get started with design systems, the importance of creativity within constraints, and the challenges of managing design debt.

Takeaways

• Design systems are essential for cohesive product development.
• Creativity can flourish within the structure of design systems.
• Governance is crucial for maintaining a successful design system.
• Design debt can accumulate if not managed properly.
• AI has the potential to assist in managing design systems.
• Collaboration between teams enhances the effectiveness of design systems.
• Flexibility and rigidity must be balanced in design systems.
• Getting leadership buy-in is vital for design system success.
• Insight into the design landscape is key for governance.
• The journey into design systems is unique for each individual.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Design Systems and Jarvis Moore's Journey

02:59 Understanding Design Systems: Misconceptions and Realities

05:46 Defining a Design System: Foundations and Flexibility

08:54 Getting Started with Design Systems: Initial Steps and Champions

12:02 The Role of Developers and Designers in Design Systems

14:57 Balancing Creativity and Structure in Design Systems1

7:46 Processes and Collaboration in Design Systems

20:52 Building a Centralized vs. Decentralized Design System Team

23:54 The Importance of Embedded Engineers in Design Systems

26:49 Convincing Leadership: The Business Case for Design Systems

29:43 The Future of Design Systems: Headless Systems and Design Tokens

44:31 The Importance of Design Tokens

47:43 AI and Design Systems: A New Era

50:17 Automating Design Processes with AI

55:39 Navigating Design Debt in Systems

58:41 Governance in Design Systems

01:05:36 Measuring the Success of Design Systems

Links to Jarvis’ Interaction Design Foundation Courses

DESIGN SYSTEMS BLUEPRINT

AI FOR DESIGN SYSTEMS: HOW TO STAY AHEAD AND LEAD