My guest on Ratio Talks this week has enjoyed a long and distinguished career in public health. He worked with Michael Marmot in his early efforts to translate research on health inequalities in public policy. I have enjoyed many conversations with Jason about how we recover the innovative zeal of early 20th Century public health leaders with their steadfast focus on the power of ‘we’. Jason has sought to apply this thinking as public health lead in three London boroughs, and in important reviews of public policy such as his report of learning from the Grenfell Tower fire that killed 72 people in 2017.

Jason was public health lead in the London Borough of Newham, and he has published his reflections in a new book Same Storm Different Boats, available, as they say, in all good bookstores.

We are joined by Libby Sallnow, lead author of the Lancet Commission on The Value of Death, and Professor at the Marie Curie Palliative Care Research Department at University College London.

In the conversation, we refer to Jacqueline Rose’s The Plague, a collection of essays on inequalities in and lack of respect for death.

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