Javed Ali has led an intrepid career. DIA, DHS, FBI, ODNI, NCTC, and NSC...just a few places he's held analytic and senior positions. 

The first half of the podcast is on intelligence. The second half is on domestic violent extremism. 

I was unable to completely edit out the clicking sounds. That is on me and no fault of Javed. Appreciate your patience as I learn new editing and interviewing techniques.

bio: https://fordschool.umich.edu/faculty/javed-ali 

Javed's podcast: https://burnbagpod.com/

contact info: [email protected]