We live in a world where intense conflict seems ever imminent. A friendly conversation takes an unexpected turn into an "Us v. Them" situation. And when it does, is it even possible to turn a toxic trajectory around?

In this episode, Dane Sanders talks with Jaz Ampaw-Farr about how to gracefully confront polarizing topics through empathy and human connection. Her unique story of hardship contrasts beautifully with how she has learned to thrive in the middle of tension... and share her joyful outlook with others.