Soulful songstress Jaz Karis joins the podcast this week to reflect on her debut album Safe Flight, the challenges of categorising R&B, and how streaming, accent bias, and genre politics affect UK Black artists.

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Lloyd is the co-curator of Black Sound London: The Story of British Black Music, an exhibition currently on at the Barbican Library from 10 Mar to 19 Jul 2025

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