Let's Talk! with authors Bill Watkins and Corey Piper

Jazz, Jesus, and Jefferson | Let's Talk Ep. 1


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Corey talks with Bill about his journey from atheist jazz drummer to Jesus + why legitimate authority is breaking down in 2025.


⏰ Timestamps (chapters)

00:00 Opening Banter & Trailer  

00:17 The Chuck Swindoll “Put the Notebook Away” Story  

04:40 Authenticity in Preaching vs. Performance Preaching  

07:08 Why Chuck Was Always the Same Man in the Pulpit  

09:20 Musicians Influencing Musicians – The Conversation on Stage  

11:36 Why it's Difficult for Great Artists to “Update” Their Sound  

14:21 John Coltrane, Buddy Rich, and the Musician’s Musician  

20:29 From Rock to Hard Rock to Jazz – Bill’s Drummer Journey  

26:55 60s–70s Protests: “Isn’t This Groovy, Man?”  

31:50 Authority vs. Authoritarianism – First Principles  

37:43 What Makes Authority Good (and God the Best)  

44:14 Authority, the Common Good, and the Five Solas ✝️  

49:14 God’s Role in All Legitimate Authority  

58:20 The Authority of God Alone (Soli Deo Gloria)  

01:02:39 How to Have Real Conversations in a Polarized Age  

01:07:12 Bill’s Journey to Faith – From Atheist Drummer to Jesus  

01:12:02 The Wild Diversity of Conversion Stories  

01:16:16 Intellectual Objections, Moral Rebellion, and Real Guilt  

01:22:44 Facing the Reality of Good and Evil  

01:28:33 Musical Memories That Still Hit Hard  

01:29:54 Rousseau vs. the Founding Fathers – The Core Clash  

01:34:00 The Role of Authority in a Healthy Society  

01:39:27 Why the Constitution Is Still Relevant in 2025  

01:45:39 The Value-System Battle We’re Actually In  

01:47:12 Closing Thoughts & Farewell


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Let's Talk! with authors Bill Watkins and Corey PiperBy Corey Piper