A singing and echoing Blind Shovel, this one with songwriter JE Sunde. We discuss the metrics of success, being square, the role of emotion in songwriting, and the power of beauty.

JE is currently based in Minneapolis and is a classically trained musician from the university in Eau Claire, WI. His latest album "9 Songs About Love" can be found on Spotify, alongside his two previous. Keep 'em peeled for the latest.

Header image: photo of JE Sunde by Graham Gardner