The Fan's Jeff Hathhorn joins! Jeff notes today was the better day for the Steelers defense than the offense, highlighted by Patrick Queen intercepting Aaron Rodgers on the very first play. Will Howard did have some impressive throws, though, and Jeff really likes the situation Howard is in. The guys discuss DeMarvin Leal's time with the team, and how he can take a step forward in 2025. They also get into how soon we could see Cole Holcomb in a regular capacity.