Late 2024, John headed off to London to see one of the UK's finest four-piece art rock bands: Cud, supported by the amusing and eccentric John Mouse.

In this episode John and Gordon discuss the gig and various tangential topics, including, but not limited to, the importance of being able to sit down sometimes.

Here's the article on the website that has a bit more about the trip, as well as the gig: https://jeffreymusicrocks.wordpress.com/2024/11/11/the-cud-band-in-london/