Jenny Koons is a director on the cutting edge of immersive theater. She specializes in bringing diverse artists together to create original cross-disciplinary work through a collaborative process.  Central to her ideas is work that’s both site-specific and in a reciprocal relationship with its audience.  It’s of a piece that Jenny Koons has been a facilitator and educator in creating anti-racist spaces and engaging in conversations around race and equity for over a decade. One of her primary interests in theater or as an educator is making and reaffirming community. As she says,” directing is community organizing… Because it's guiding a group of strangers towards something that doesn't exist. Something that's invisible. And that, to me, feels like such an important exercise in this moment where we're all kind of careening towards something we don't really know what it is.”  In this podcast, we talk about making site-specific theater during a pandemic, immersive theater as we emerge from a pandemic, the ways organizing and theater intersect, AAPI representation both on stage and behind the curtain, and the magic of collectively making the imagined visible.