The ex-CEO of Sainsbury’s and current Vice Chairman of Terra Firma spent an hour in conversation with Jericho partner Matthew Gwyther. One of Britain’s most thoughtful business leaders, King talks frankly about the state of UK retail, the plight of the high street, the difference between running a FTSE 100 company and being in private equity, the problem of taxing Big Tech and how he went from being a salesman with a sample suitcase full of Haagen Dazs to one of the UK’s Most Admired business leaders. What he’d have done if he’d become the supremo in Formula 1 and the ups and downs of working alongside with the controversial private equity supremo Guy Hands.The interview is divided into two separate podcasts in which he deals with the following questions:Part TwoWhat’s the difference between leading a FTSE100 and being a boss of a private equity firm, and which bits do you like of the former and latter?Private Equity doesn’t help itself. Well-read readers of the FT might understand its benefits but I don’t think it’s done a very good job of selling itself to the broader public as a way of running businesses has it?What’s Guy Hands like to work with?Do you fight and who becomes between you when you do?Tell us your ideas about increasing VAT and cutting business rates?George Osborne and the minimum wage Brexit, How will it pan out?

Jericho Conversations is one of a number of initiatives that spontaneously emerged during the first COVID lockdown – part of a determination to use moments of crisis to pivot towards a better, fairer, more equitable and sustainable future for all. By popular demand, we have reignited the series to help find surprising and refreshing solutions and insights into a world in constant flux. Each conversation – led by an expert speaker – is designed to keep Jericho communities engaged and thinking about “what comes next?” for business and society.