Listen in to hear Abby and Thomas' discussion about Jerry Smith, a former tight end for the Washington Commanders. Jerry Smith is widely considered as one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history but is often overlooked due to his homosexuality and AIDS diagnosis in the mid-1980s. Abby and Thomas discuss Smith's stats, personal life, and football legacy in this insightful conversation into masculinity in the NFL.     

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