The Matt Sodnicar Podcast

Jessica Rae: Curiousity, Courage and Fear in Leadership


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I sit down with Jessica Rae, VP of Account Management from Blackline to talk about leadership in business, but specifically how she recognized and admitted to fears as a leader - and the transformation that occurred in her teams from that candor and courage.  We also explore facing mortality as a breast cancer survivor; the concepts of neutral curiosity, assuming positive intent, and how her athletic background helped her feel comfortable failing, and forged a mindset of heading forward towards resistance - the dark cave of fear, and Casa Bonita! 

Links to her articles:

  • Becoming More Heart Centered in Leadership
  • Connections, Courage and Change Management

Books and podcasts: 

  • The Price Of Tomorrow, by Jeff Booth, and 
  • A Rich Life - Tim Ferris with Ramit Sethi
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The Matt Sodnicar PodcastBy Matt Sodnicar