Tony talks with Jill Carroll, scholar of world religions and avid bird hunter. They discuss mosquitoes as big as teal, Texas hunting leases, losing faith at ORU, when your mom is the best hunter in the family, women who can do everything, reclaiming violent images of God, hubris and magical thinking, how the natural world does not conform to our moral categories, and more. You can find Jill at jillcarroll.com.